Saturday, February 27, 2010

How to Retire Happier and Richer

A recent Wells Fargo survey about the retirement preparedness of Americans age 50 to 59 showed that they are not that well-prepared.

Of this group , a third (67 percent) said their expectations for retirement had changed from those held a year ago, and over half (56 percent) expected to work longer by an average of three more years.

These baby boomers said that they require $800,000 in retirement savings, but have saved only $300,000 (median amounts).

This group also had not assessed how long their savings would last in retirement.

They expected to live nearly 21 years in retirement, but planned on spending nearly 10 percent of their savings every year in retirement.

The retirement industry recommendation is to withdraw no more than 4 percent annually.

Here is some retirement advice to help you retire richer:


    People who don't respect money don't have any.
    — J. Paul Getty,

    You are only as rich as the enrichment you bring to the world around you.
    — Rajesh Setty

    How easy it is for a man to die rich, if he will be contented to live miserable.
    — Henry Fielding

    Money is what you make it. Depending upon who you are — and your frame of mind — money can be anything you want it to be. Money can be: the root of all evil; or that which answers all things; or something that burns a hole in your pocket; or a means to freedom; or an interesting concept; or even a stupid concept. Whatever value you place on money, you must take responsibility for it. If money is evil to you, you created it being evil. If money is a problem to you, you created it being a problem. If money is joy to you, you created this concept. Take responsibility for your concepts. And be clear that these are just concepts. Nothing more and nothing less.
    — from The Lazy Person's Guide to Success by

    We have a balance of $0.32 in the bank … Which made us four-and-a-half trillion dollars richer than the federal government.
    — Jim Borgman

And here are some retirement planning resources to help you retire happier and richer:


Wednesday, February 17, 2010

Retirement News for Today


Here are some interesting facts relating to retirement planning:


    1. A third of Canadians have no RRSPs but even among those that do, 80 percent are not confident the investments in them will provide enough for Retirement, according to a BMO survey.

    2. One in four Canadians don't know how much retirement income and retirement savings they will need to retire. In other words, 25 percent do not even know how much retirement income is required to achieve a comfortable retirement. Interestingly, 54 percent estimate they'll need at least $550,000 in retirement savings.

    3. Most Canadians and Americans want to retire early, or at least by the age of 65. Incidentally, this retirement age has been the official one since the welfare state was founded by Otto von Bismarck in 19th century Germany. There are trends happening, however, that are creating a changing picture of retirement. Many people who were looking forward to packing it in are having to postpone retirement because of the economic downturn has forced them to reconsider their plans.

    4. The RBC survey showed that 90 percent of Canadians believe they will have enough money to cover retirement. But an RBC spokeswoman also said many Canadians underestimate the amount they will need once they stop work.

Retirment Planning for Retirees and the Soon-to-Be Retired Who Do Not Know How to Spell Retirement


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Saturday, February 13, 2010

Top -10 Reasons to Never Have a Job


Here are the ten topics that Steve Pavlina uses in Top-10 Reasons to Never Have a Job

1. Income for dummies
2. Limited experience
3. Lifelong domestication
4. Too many mouths to feed
5. Way too risky
6. Having an evil bovine master
7. Begging for money
8. An inbred social life
9. Loss of freedom
10. Becoming a coward

Also see 10 Reasons to Never Work at a Real Job:

Then see How to Get Sponsorships Even If You Don't Have a Job.

Quotes about Work and Real Jobs:



    Trust not what inspires other members of society to choose a career. Trust what inspires you. From this decision alone will come over a third of your satisfaction or misery in your life.
    - from The Lazy Person's Guide to Success

    Find a calling you love and you will never work a day in your life.
    - Confucius

    To be successful, the first thing to do is fall in love with your work.
    - Sister Mary Lauretta

Monday, January 25, 2010

Quotes about Work and Retirement



As a matter of course, the most important elements of a successful retirement are good physical and mental health, spiritual fulfillment, great relationships with family and friends, and many interesting things to do. Committing yourself to being a lifelong learner will go a long way towards having many interesting things to do.

What's more, when you commit yourself to being a lifelong learner, your life will never be without purpose. Having an important purpose, to be sure, can be a savior in retirement and make you forget about work.

Here are a few quotes about work and retirement:

    There are a lot of retirement books telling you how to manage when you retire. What most people want is one that'll tell them how to manage in the meantime.
    - Unknown wise person

    The morality of work is the morality of slaves, and the modern world has no need of slavery.
    - Bertrand Russell

    I have long been of the opinion that if work were such a splendid thing the rich would have kept more of it for themselves.
    - Bruce Grocott

    Women marry because they don't want to work.
    - Marry Garden

    When you see what some girls marry you realize how they must hate to work for a living.
    - Helen Rowland


      Check out these other work and retirement resources

        Ideas for Retirement Parties

        Funny Retirement Poems

        Retirement Gifts on The Retirement Cafe

        Retirement Cake Sayings and Party Ideas

        Best Places to Retire Happy on The How to Retire Website

          Tuesday, January 19, 2010

          Basic Retirement Advice - Dont' Give Your Retirement Money to Crooks


          Dont' Give Your Retirement Money to Crooks is basic retirement advice, but here is a story on how some crooks may succeed with many retirees.






          Also, if you live in Canada, you may want to read this article:

          Canadian Fed Pensions a Time Bomb


          Here are some new Retirement Planning Resources:

          Funny Retirement Poems

          Funny Retirement Quotes

          Retirement Calculators

          Retirement Humor

          Monday, January 18, 2010

          Less Money Going into Retirement Plans

          Fewer Canadians are putting money into retirement plans, according to the Royal Bank's annual RRSP poll.

          The RB annual RRSP polls says 32 per cent of Canadians have not started saving for retirement yet, compared to 24 per cent in 2008. The study also found only 36 per cent say they are planning or have planned for retirement, down from 42 per cent in 2008.

          The decline is sharpest among those aged 55 and over, with 53 per cent doing any retirement planning compared to 67 per cent last year.RBC also says just 35 per cent of Canadians have contributed to or plan to contribute to an RRSP for the 2009 tax year - the lowest percentage of contributors since 1996.
          Here are some retirement resources to put retirement planning in perspective:



          Health in Retirement

          Fun Things to Do in Retirement

          Wednesday, January 6, 2010

          Create Your Unreal Retirement Job or Dream Retirement Career

          Jobs for older workers are expected to increase in certain occupations in the future as employers hire seniors, baby boomers and retirees who come with experience and intellectual capital - but often without a need for expensive benefits - for temporary jobs and project work.

          If this trend develops, you may be able to create your unreal retirement job or dream career for retirement.

          These Stats apply to Canadians:
          • An estimated 950,000 Canadians would like to start a business within the year says research done by RBC Financial Group.
            Self-employment is growing fastest among young Canadians (age 15-24) and older Canadians (age 55+), says Stats Canada.

          • 'Seniorpreneurs' account for ¼ of self employed people in Canada, and 30% of the total workforce over 55.40% of Canadians think entrepreneurship is the most rewarding career option, according to a 2005 poll by Leger Marketing.

          • Self-employment is growing fastest among young Canadians (age 15-24) and older Canadians (age 55+), says Stats Canada.

          Keep in mind that you don't have to go halfway around the world and spend a ton of money to spot opportunities for retirement jobs and retirement businesses and take advantage of them.
          Opportunities for creating new sources of income are all around us, including our backyards.
          Robert G. Allen and Mark Victor Hansen, co-authors of The One Minute Millionaire (Harmony, 2002), claim that they will be able to spot at least fifteen money-making opportunities in your living room alone.

          Indeed, opportunities for creating your own great retirement jobs and retirement businesses are all around you. I discuss this at length in my latest book Career Success Without a Real Job.

          Approaching Retirement and not sure if you want to quit working? Check out these retirement job resources loaded with opportunities perfect for the skills and maturity you can provide.

          Tuesday, December 1, 2009

          Americans Not Willing to Spend Less in Retirement




          Apparently, Americans are becoming more realistic about retirement, with nearly half of those currently eligible for Social Security now planning to work in their so-called retirement years.

          Surprisingly, however, 95 percent say they would not be willing to spend less in retirement.

          Those are the findings of the fourth Real Life Retirement quarterly pulse survey conducted by Charles Schwab & Co., Inc.

          "Americans are willing to save more and work later, in the hope of maintaining their spending and lifestyle in retirement," said Stacy Hammond, director of Real Life Retirement Services, Charles Schwab.

          In my opinion this is quite ridiculous since people do need less money in retirement.

          This survey showed that nearly half (47 percent) of workers aged 65 and older are prepared to work during retirement.

          Reality is such that most people who want to work past the age of 65 will not get the chance due to health problems, not being able to get the job they want, or due to having to take care of a spouse.


          Retirement Sayings and Retirement Quotes to Help You Retire Happy


          When starting out, don't worry about not having enough money. Limited funds are a blessing, not a curse. Nothing encourages creative thinking in quite the same way.— H. Jackson Brown, Jr.


          Formal education will make you a living; self-education will make you a fortune.
          — Jim Rohn

          I retired early for health reasons — my company was sick of me and I was sick of them.
          — Unknown wise person

          I’m retired. You on the other hand have to go to work.
          — Unknown wise person

          The money’s no better in retirement but the hours are!
          — Unknown wise person

          Check out these retirement resources:

          Wednesday, November 25, 2009

          Zen for Your Retirement


          Retirement Quotes — Zen for Your Retirement


          If you do not get it from yourself, where will you go for it?
          — Zen proverb

          Ultimately nothing matters and so what if it did?
          — Unknown wise person


          The idea is to die young as late as possible.
          — Ashley Montagu

          How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are?
          — Satchel Paige


          Enjoy the Spring of Love and Youth,
          To some good angel leave the rest;
          For Time will teach thee soon the truth,
          There are no birds in last year's nest!
          — Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

          Youth has no age.
          — Pablo Picasso

          The secret to [retirement] life is to appreciate the pleasure of being terribly deceived.
          — Oscar Wilde


          Check out These Retirement Resources

          Saturday, October 3, 2009

          Review of Career Success Without a Real Job



          Here is a review that I posted on Chapters Indigo website about Career Success Without a Real Job:


          Just finished reading Career Success Without a Real Job. WOW! I am a fan of Zelinski's promo giveaway retirement books How to Retire Happy, Wild, and Free and The Joy of Not Working", that I recommend to my clients who are about to retire.

          Career Success Without a Real Job, however, is directed at the "organizationally averse" who don't like working in corporations. This career guide will of course also appeal to retirees who want to keep working part time but not in a traditional "Cor-Pirate" setting.

          Zelinski in this book mentions that his writing isn't the best. That may be so but I can attest that his books are readable and offer good advice, That's the only standard that matters.

          Zelinski's style is very accessible, common sense, gently coaxing without being too preachy.

          While pointing out that Career Success Without a Real Job may not be for everyone, Zelinski proceeds to talk about the exciting realities that await those who dare to dream of a life lived on their own terms. This means having the freedom to decide on the hours we want to work, the amount of vacation time we want to take, with whom we want to work, and what we are going to do today.

          Zelinski reminds us that real success is not measured merely by the 'almighty dollar.'

          Here from the book are some "Irrefutable Signs That You Have Achieved Career Success Without a Real Job:"

          You no longer know how to prepare for job interviews and don’t care that you don’t know.


          • You wonder why people get up before 9:00 A.M.

          • Most people with real jobs criticize or envy you.

          • You rely on job ads rather than the Dilbert cartoon for your laugh of the day.

          • You are always the last one to know when there is a holiday for working people and you happily work your usual four to five hours anyway.

          • You don’t ever need any job references.*

          • You no longer have a Daytimer because you forget to look in it after making an entry. Multitasking means working on your laptop in a coffee bar for two hours and watching attractive members of the opposite sex at the same time.

          • You know what resume means but have completely forgotten what résumé means.

          Above all, Career Success Without a Real Job is adventure, satisfaction, riches, and happiness all on your own terms!

          But as Zelinski points out early in the book:

          "The principles in this book will not work for everyone. One reason is that many people apparently don’t want freedom; they would rather be imprisoned by organizations that tell themwhat to do, when to do it, how to do it. As Lord Boyd-Orr once said, 'If people have to choose between freedom and sandwiches, they will take sandwiches.'

          "If you are one of those mundane people who would selectsandwiches over personal freedom, Career Success Without a Real Job is definitely not for you. On the other hand, if you are trapped in the corporate world as the majority is, but would like to be liberated, then the success principles in this career book can inspire and help you to create a much more rewarding lifestyle for yourself."

          What Zelinski is saying is that living a life of career freedom is not easy. Indeed, if it was easy, everyone would be doing it. But if you are prepared to put in a lot of effort with inspiration, following the principles of Career Success Without a Real Job will make you envy of the corporate world.


          Also See:







          Thursday, October 1, 2009

          Unreal Job Resources



          Check out these unreal job resources, particularly those directed at retirees who want to work in retirement.


        • The Joy of Not Working:

        • Retiremet Quotes Cafe: A Comprehensive Collection of Retirement Quotes and Retirement Sayings for Any Occassion Including a Special Retirement Card or a Retirement Party Selections by Ernie J. Zelinski, Author of How to Retire Happy, Wild, and Free. Includes Retirement Poems, Retirement Letters, Retirement Dinner Speeches, Retirement Gifts, and Retirement Jokes.

        • The Joy of Not Working Website: Features The World's Best Retirement Book and The World's Second Best Retirement Book. Real life success stories about people not working, 25 reasons to retire early, and retirement quotes, letters, jokes, and poems from an author whose books have sold over 625,000 copies worldwide.

        • The Retirement Café: Retirement and Money Articles Such as 7 Secrets to a Happy Retirement, Top-10 Dumbest Retirement Moves, and "Winning a Lottery: The Retirement Plan with the Most Bugs to Be Worked Out." Includes Fun Things to Do in Retirement and Jobs for Retirement.

        • The Joy of Being Retired





          COPYRIGHT © 2010 by
          Ernie J. Zelinski Author of the World's Best Retirment Book,

          All Rights Reserved

          Saturday, September 26, 2009

          Retirement Book for Your Personality and Links to How to Retire Happy








          FIND OUT WHICH RETIREMENT BOOK BEST SUITS YOUR PERSONALITY

          DON'T SCROLL DOWN YET, DO THE SIMPLE MATH BELOW


          THEN SCROLL DOWN TO FIND THE BEST RETIRMENT BOOK THAT WILL HELP YOU ENJOY A HAPPY AND FULFILLING RETIREMENT

          It's CRAZY how accurate this is!





            1) Pick your favorite number between 1-9
            2) Multiply by 3 then
            3) Add 3
            4) Then again Multiply by 3
            5 ) You'll get a 2 or 3 digit number.....
            6 ) Add the digits together




          Now Scroll down to the RETIREMENT BOOK list below and find your number that will correspond to the best retirement book for your personality.




          And here are a few more links:

          Thursday, September 24, 2009

          Inspirational Quotes about Quotations

























          One of my favorite quotes is by Bernard Shaw: "I often quote myself - this adds spice to my conversations."





          Here are some more Inspirational Quotes about Quotations

          Quotation: The act of repeating erroneously the words of another.The words erroneously repeated. — Ambrose Bierce



          The great writers of aphorisms read as if they had all known eachother very well. — Elias Canetti



          Beware of thinkers whose minds function only when they are fueledby a quotation. — Emile Cioran

          The wisdom of the wise and the experience of the ages are perpetuatedby quotations. — Isaac D'Israeli

          It isn't much of quote book if I am not in it. — Yours truly (after being a book of quotations for his birthday)

          I hate quotation. Tell me what you know. — Ralph Waldo Emerson


          I quote others only the better to express myself. — Michel de Montaigne



          Life itself is a quotation. — Jorge Luis Borges



          Nobody quotes me, so why should I quote someone else? — Unknown wise person



          No comment, but don't quote me. — Unknown wise person



          One good quote is worth a book. — Unknown wise person




          For More Great Quotes and Sayings See:





          Tuesday, September 22, 2009

          Low Income Retirees Can Have a Happy Retirement

          There is a lot of misinformation coming from financial institutions and the media about how retired people with low incomes can't have much enjoyment in retirement. Perhaps these "experts" on retirement should check out some research performed by Claritas, the organization that classifies American neighborhoods demographically for marketing purposes.

          One of the groups classified according to the Claritas PRIZM system is called the Hometown Retired. There are just over 1,200,000 Hometown Retired households (1.11%) in the U.S. They have an annual household median income of only $26,000, much lower than the national median income. Almost a third of these households are renters. If they own their own homes, their houses are aging – half were built before 1958. The value of their houses or condos is a far cry from the national median value of houses and condos.

          Because most never made it beyond high school and spent their working lives at blue-collar jobs, Hometown Retired households’ retirements are extremely modest from the financial point of view; typically they get by on social security and modest pensions. Despite being below the national average in income and assets, most Hometown Retired households don't consider themselves poor, however. One of the reasons why this group is relatively comfortable financially is because the majority live on the fringes of large cities. Here it costs less to live than it costs to live in the cities themselves.

          Hometown Retired households are comprised of retirees, two-thirds of whom are over 65; nonetheless, don't assume that these people don't do much more than hang around the house and watch TV all day. On the contrary, the typical retirees comprising Household Retired households are just as busy as when they were working full-time. Best of all, they are enjoying retirement.

          How do these retirees get by financially and enjoy themselves on their low incomes? According to Claritas, Hometown Retirees shop at Woolworth's or a reasonable substitute such as Wal-Mart. They use lawn maintenance services, belong to a veterans' club, drive a Chrysler Sebring car, eat Wheaties, and own a microwave oven. They buy Firestone tires, heavy rock music, and rechargeable batteries. They dine at the places such as Golden Corral.

          Hometown Retirees spend a portion of their time vacationing on bus tours, trying to quit smoking, bowling at least 20 times a year, and partaking in karate or martial arts. They are also collecting stamps, playing cards and chess, volunteering for political causes, shopping on the Internet, and drinking low-alcohol beer.

          Hometown Retirees are reading True Story, Discover, Audubon, Field & Stream, Hunting, Soap Opera Weekly, and Ladies Home Journal magazines. They are listening to easy-listening, nostalgia, and soft-contemporary music on the radio. And when they find time for it, on TV they are watching soap operas, the Montel Williams Show, the CBS Sunday Night Movie, the NCAA swimming and diving championships, Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, and the NBC Nightly News.

          The real gem of information Claritas gives us is that the large majority of Hometown Retired households isn't complaining about not having enough MONEY to do the things they want to do in retirement. Their biggest complaint in life, in fact, is not having enough TIME in the day to do all the things that they want to do. Above all, hometown retirees prove that just because you are a retired person with a low income doesn't mean that you can't have fun in life. As Harry Emerson Fosdick once remarked, “Don't simply retire from something; have something to retire to.”

            Four More Retirement Quotes to Help You Have a Happy Retirement Regardless of Your Income

            One ought, every day at least, to hear a little song, read a good poem, see a fine picture, and, if it were possible, to speak a few reasonable words. — von Goethe

            Retirement has been a discovery of beauty for me. I never had the time before to notice the beauty of my grandkids, my wife, the tree outside my very own front door. And, the beauty of time itself. — Hartman Jule

            Your best purchases in retirement will turn out to be the ones that you never made. — from How to Retire Happy, Wild, and Free by Ernie Zelinski

            By the age of 65, most of us have accomplished whatever work-related goals we are going to reach. If you haven't done it by then, chances are you aren't going to do it. Take the retirement, take the pension, take the Social Security, and sail off into the sunset. — Sue Lasky



          Also See:


          Promotional Giveaways by VIP BOOKS

          Where to Retire

          Retirement Jobs

          The Money Café

          Benefits from a Recession

          Quotes and Sayings about Creativity and Innovation

          Funny Friendship Quotes and Sayings







          Saturday, September 19, 2009

          Creative People Are Not Necessarily Smart and They Cerrtainly Are Not Nice












          David Ogilvy was widely regarded as a genius – so much so that he wondered it if were true. After all, he reported, he had flunked out of Oxford. He decided to find out exactly how smart he was, expecting to have an IQ around 145. He scored 96 (Business Strategy Review, 2005).

          Gelade (1997) gave a personality test to people in creative jobs (58 individuals in creative departments of prominent UK advertising agencies and small design groups) and compared them with 70 managers in mainstream UK corporations with jobs that were not obviously in need of creativity. The creative people scored much higher on neuroticism, hostility, and depression.

          As one researcher noted after reviewing research studies, creative people are not "nice."

          See:

          Friday, September 18, 2009

          Free E-books Including Graffiti for the Employees Soul


          Some time ago Ernie Zelinski, author of The World's Best Retirment Book, did a book called Humpty Dumpty Was Pushed: Graffiti for the Soul.

          Firefly Books paid Ernie a $5,000 advance to publish the book.

          Much against Ernie's wishes, Firefly changed the title to
          Off the Wall: Graffiti for the Soul.

          Ernie now provides the content from that book as seven free e-books (in PDF format). (listed at Graffiti for the Creative Soul)

          You can download the seven volumes of graffiti from the Graffiti for the Soul Series at the bottom of the page:

          You can download the seven volumes of graffiti from the Graffiti for the Soul Series at the following links:

          Sunday, September 13, 2009

          Two Stories about Retirees


          Here are two latest stories about retirees, one good and one not-so-good:

          Here are two different versions of a retirement book you may want to consider:

          Sunday, September 6, 2009

          Tired of scraping by living paycheck to paycheck?


          Tired of scraping by, only buying the necessities of life and only when they are on sale, living paycheck to paycheck?

          Discover how to break out of this trap once and for all, and start living a life of prosperity and freedom.

          Here Is the Lifestyle That You Can Lead When You Follow the Success Principles of Career Success Without a Real Job
          • You don't have to ever hear that awful word "teamwork" or the equally awful phrase "being a team player". As someone once said, "Teamwork is a boss telling a bunch of mindless idiots to do their work all in the same regimented way without any creativity."
          • You no longer have to deal with jerks and idiots in the workplace; indeed, you can now enjoy a jerk-free and idiot-free environment and be highly creative in the process.
          • No more going to a corporate office on Monday morning and hearing co-workers ask each other that mundane question "How was your weekend?" followed by answers such as "It was fine." Fact is, you never did care whether your co-workers enjoyed their weekends.
          This Book Will Also Help You Retire Happy, Wild, and Free.

          Success Quote of the Day

          You are not here merely to make a living. You are here to enable
          the world to live more amply, with greater vision, and with finer
          spirit of hope and achievement. You are here to enrich the world.
          You impoverish yourself if you forget this errand.
          — Woodrow Wilson


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          Sunday, August 30, 2009

          Where Is the Market for Retirement Books?


          Question:

          So where is the market for a
          retirement book such as How to Retire Happy, Wild, and Free by Ernie J. Zelinski or a quasi retirement book such as Career Success Without a Real Job?

          Answer:


          • There are now 76 million baby boomers in the U.S. nearing retirement.

          • In the next six years, nearly 2 million teachers are expected to retire in the U.S.

          • In the next five years, over a third of federal government employees in Canada are expected to retire. In New Brunswick, half of the provincial government managers are expected to retire in the next seven years.

          • Within the next three years, nearly half of government executives in the U.S. are slated to retire. (From an article on MSN.com called Six Hot Fields to Consider by Barbara Reinhold)

          • There are 35 million Americans over 65, and that number will grow to 62 million by 2025.

          • However, let's not forget the people from 45 to 65. Many of these people are either contemplating retirement, have sem-retired, or have fully retired at an earlier age.

            Here are Two New Retirement Quotes for Retirees:

          • Life begins when the kids move out and the cat gets run over.
            — Author Unknown

            An inordinate passion for pleasure is the secret of remaining young.
            — Oscar Wilde

          Check out the:

          Tuesday, August 18, 2009

          Why Retirement Rocks and Signs You Need Career Success



          Some of the Reasons Why Retirement Rocks from Ernie Zelinski's New Book Called The Joy of Being Retired Coming Soon:


            When you experience retirement fully, you get to achieve remarkable personal growth and higher consciousness, two elements of happiness extremely difficutl to experience in the typical workplace.

            You get to find out that if you want to live a long and happy life, you must forget how old you are. Indeed, this gets more important the older you get.

            Retirement allows you to get your priorities straight. No one on his or her death bed ever said, "I wish I would have spend more time in the office."



          3 More Signs That You Have to Read Career Success Without a Real Job by Ernie Zelinski:


            1. You just may have to read Career Success Without a Real Job if you would like to simultaneously return dignity to the arts of working and loafing.

            2. You just may have to read Career Success Without a Real Job if the only time you feel comfortable at work is on casual Fridays.

            3. You just may have to read Career Success Without a Real Job if you have had 19 jobs in the last two years and didn't have to quit any of them.